Application Class

By Wes and Chewbacca

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Class and Demonstration Room

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=> Jessalyn
=> Dises
=> Kyyel
=> Ayam
=> Zidro
=> Kerunous
=> Naota
=> Korolov
=> Korbel
=> Tracer
=> Shade
=> Torik
=> Chewbacca
Obvious exits:
ut leads to Entertainment Nexus.

Hey everyone! First off I'd like to start with NPC business applications. Both Chewie and I have had experience with those things and they can be a huge pain.

Kerunous says, "my alt applied, but has heard nothing"

Wes says, "It takes a while, I think my first business app took a few weeks, then getting the builder took a few more, but in the end it was worth it."

Kerunous says, "weeks? Its been months now :)"

Chewbacca nods. "Mine took about the same amount of time. It takes awhile for the admins to go through everything."

Wes says, "Did you confirm that it went through?"

Chewbacca says, "Did you page/@mail the admins to confirm that it went through?"

Chewbacca says, "Bah."

Wes laughs at Chewie!

Kerunous says, "yeah, i spoke to Minkar about it"

Wes nods.

Kerunous says, "she said she'd get back to me the next day, then the next day, and so on :)"

Shade has never app'd for businesses... he's always been a military or faction boy, but it probably wouldn't hurt to know the gist of a good application...?

Wes says, "Well with all the code changes the admin is likely very busy. It's probably ok to check in on the matter every couple of weeks via @mail."

Kerunous says, "i haven't asked her about it for a few weeks mind"

Kerunous says, "yeah"

Korbel waits 2-3 weeks in between not hearing.

Chewbacca nods. "Well, if Minkar is too busy, you can always bother Zen. He loves to be bothered."

Wes says, "2 weeks should be minimum."

Wes says, "Yeah Zen lives to be bothered by people who want their apps done :)"

Tracer says, "It's actually probably better to send a polite inquiry to sw-rp@starwarsmush.com, Kerunous. Then the RPA folks will see that something might have slipped through the cracks."

Kerunous says, "nah, not gonna bother Zen. He's yet to sort out my +zinv :)"

Chewbacca says, "Well, you're just having all kinds of problems. :P"

Chewbacca says, "Stick around after the class and maybe we can figure something out pertaining to your particular issues. :)"

Korbel says, "I think it is VERY important to remember that each of the admins have duties that keep them very busy. Zen is the most public of all admins that we see, but that does not mean they are not all busy. Give them some time, and some patience. I think this point is VERY important to remember."

Wes says, "Thanks Tracer :), as Shade suggests, the gist of a good business application is pretty simple. Admin wants to see businesses that are unique and most importantly provide RP opportunity to the MUSH as well as members of the business."

Chewbacca nods. "Yes. And like Korbel said, all of the admins are very busy people. They're here to help, but you have to remember that they're helping /everybody/ so it might take time before they can get to you."

Wes says, "SW1 makes a better MUSH then it does a business sims game however, having an NPC business and running it is alot of fun, and extremely rewarding when your employees are getting RP and your income rises from the growth of employees."

Chewbacca nods. It is alot of fun and is a great way to get RP moving, but its also very hard to keep up. There are alot of responsabilities involved.

Shade inclines his head, "The bottom line for all applications though is surely the RP angle - no matter how 'cool' an idea or how original the thinking, you have to be able to demonstrate that you're going to bring something to scenes and plots that you wouldn't do with a normal PC, or by joining an existing group...

Chewbacca nods. "Yes. The focal point is RP. But it should be somewhat unique. Nobody wants five or six of the exact same business around."

Wes nods to Shade. "The possibility for more great RP is the root of all sucessful applications.

Wes says, "When you're doing an NPC business app the main thing to remember is to convey your ideas for improving RP and player fun with your business."

Krell says, "What about startup troubles?"

Chewbacca nods. "And as with any Application, make sure its well written and makes sense." :)
Korolov says, "Spell check is crucial. :)"

Chewbacca says, "What do you mean, startup troubles?"

Wes says, "Well as with a real business, you have to hire people, and doing that is difficult, we could have another whole class just on recruiting but we'll save that for a sub-class later mayhaps :) The main thing I look for when trying to start my businesses are more people like myself, willing to help the business grow and create RP for the MUSH and others within the business."

Shade grins, "Ah... the value of an ability to write English well... always undervalued by anyone who's never had to read an application where someones put 'u' in in place of 'you'..."

Jessalyn says, "Yes, use all those nice English skillz you learned in school. ;)"

Krell nods, "I've had that problem a lot in the past. Actually I've just started a new business venture, so I hope it goes well. Just have to get staff...

Chewbacca grins. "And if its a really great idea and has awesome potential for RP and overall fun, players will flock to it and you'll hardly have to recruit at all. Well, you'll still want to get out there and put your name out. And keeping players interested is hard as well. You've got to constantly find them something to do. Not that you have to plan everything out for them, but you've got to make them want to stick around. Plan TPs and get-togethers for your employees and make them feel at home in your business."

Wes says, "Yes, just as a quick note, typos and spelling mistakes in an app are easily avoided with spell checkers or with dictionary.com :)

Chewbacca says, "And its good to send your app to a friend to read over before sending it to the RPA. Let them check it for errors and tell you what they think about the overall idea."

Korbel says, "I have no friends! :("

Wes says, "Well Chewie and I are both willing to look over apps and give feedback if you decide you need any."

Chewbacca nods.

Shade nods... "Oh hell yes... for the simple reason that whilst /you/ might think building an army of robot monkey ninjas is a /great/ idea for a Starwars campaign, other people might have constructive criticism to offer ^_^

Chewbacca says, "lol"

Jessalyn says, "LOL. Yes, try to stay in theme. ;)"

Chewbacca says, "Yeah. Being in theme will definately increase the odds of being approved. ;P"

Wes says, "Ok so before moving on, any other questions?"
Wes says, "No more questions on business apps?"
Wes says, "Then we can move on, woot!"

Chewbacca says, "And if anyone is planning on sending a business app, a good place to look for advice would be: http://www.starwarsmush.com/rp/roleplay-3.htm"

Wes says, "Yeah check that out, I usually had it open while I wrote my app. Ok, now I'd like to get into applying for a Force User character. I don't have any personal experience but luckily Kyyel, Korolov and Jessa have volunteered to help out!"

Chewbacca says, "Good. Kyyel can give advice on being Light Side, Koro can give advice for Dark Side, and Jessa can give advice for Crazy Side. :P"

Naota says, "i can tell you how not to go about it :)"

Wes says, "Heheh well I think these three will be invaluable resources so I'll turn over the floor to them."

Wes snickers at Ta.

Shade grins, "Don't start chargen with points in Lightsaber and whine a lot to the nearest wizard... right?"

Korolov says, "Well there is no Lightsaber skill here so that is not really a concern, but yeah, whining to wizards is a sure way not to get accepted. :)"

Chewbacca puts the three Jedi on the floor.

Kyyel says, "And a sure way to gain their ire. ;)"

Wes says, "And Minkar has that evil saying of wizards with long memories and all which scares me."

Korolov says, "From my perspective, the best thing to do is to first get a good idea of your character, where you came from, why you are like you are, more importantly where you want to go and how the Force plays into your chars outlook both Light and Dark."
Ayam waves and ducks out to go spend outrageous money. rl. that she doesnt have, right now.
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Kyyel nods, "Korolov has a good point. If you're going to make an application, make sure you have a reasoning for your choice on either Light or Dark. You probably already have a good concept with how your character acts and what their duties are... but also, don't be afraid to go in a direction that might not be obvious... like the Imperial who goes to the light. Just make sure to tell a good story and reasoning behind it. :)

Korolov says, "And while you don't have to know everythingatyour character has done from the cradle to today, being able to convey in your app that you are well grounded in what motivates/drives your character will go a long way in convincing the people who read it that you will be an asset to the MUSH."

Korbel says, "This is a question to Jessalyn. "Look, we all know you are a Jedi. So if I'm doing an Application for FS, is it alright if I bounce ideas off of you. Or do you think that we should try to be more unique?"

Chewbacca says, "Answer this after all of those questions have been answered. And its for all of you. "Which is easier? Taking a character you've had for awhile and apping to have them become a Jedi, or apping for a new char to be a Jedi?"

Jessalyn says, "That's a tricky question. While 'bouncing ideas' around might be okay to a certain extent, don't expect that FUs or the Force Wizard will be willing to say THIS LOOKS GREAT simply because that isn't fair to the other applicants, and gives a false impression that you have already been approved before being considered."

Shade always feels a certain degree of uniqueness is important... - especially with an alien force-user application... - it's quite a challenge coming up with a consistant 'code of conduct' for either side of the force from a nonhuman perspective... but again, talking it over with a friend or two is vital, or we're back to force-using robot monkey ninja territory..."

Kyyel says, "What I can tell you is that they want a well written application that helps to further your character's story, and how it will promote RP in the future if you do get the spot. I believe there's a website somewhere with a listing, isn't there Jessa?"

Naota says, "i think it's easier to get an 'old' character approved for an FU slot cause it would have history, an actual 'real' past, friends and enemies and you're more used to playing it than a newly created char.."

Chewbacca says, "Again, I'm always willing to look over an app if you need a second opinion. :) And I'm sure Wes feels the same."

Wes agrees.

Jessalyn says, "Either one can be beneficial, Chewie, and that really depends on the player and character involved. I've seen people take a long-time character and pave an interesting story for them as a Force user. I've also seen people use a new Force bit as a crutch, as a way to hopefully invigorate a tired old character that the player is actually rather tired of. And it shows, in enthusiasm and activity. A new character is really beneficial in some cases."

Kyyel says, "I think both have their advantages Chewie. The character who's been around has contacts and history on the MUSH. The newer character is a fresh face, and an unknown. :)"

Jessalyn looks at Kyyel. "A listing of what, now?"

Korolov says, "One more thing, if you are going to use an Existing Force User in your background, make sure that you ask/inform them before you submit your app. I think that is on the page somewhere but nobody likes to be blindsided. :)"

Kyyel sorries, "Listing was a wrong word. Showed some stuff to think about for a Force application."

Korbel says, "What are the time committment expectations from the RP staff on SW1?"

Jessalyn says, "http://www.starwarsmush.com/faq/force.html"
Jessalyn says, "I think +bbread 20/11 and 20/12 helps to answer that, Korbel."
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Jessalyn says, "While people can take breaks if need be, I think the admin like to see at LEAST one scene a week from Force users."

Korbel nods his head.

Chewbacca says, "And once scene a week is nothing. When I first started as Chewie, I was going crazy with four or five different scenes a day! :P Not complaining, though. It was great. Looking forward to getting back out there soon. ;)"

Korolov says, "Well Force Users and Features are both similar in that regard. :)"

Jessalyn says, "Indeed."

Chewbacca nods.

Kyyel says, "yup."

Korbel even does one scene a week, and I work about 50 hours. ;) Mind you, that's changed too.

Korolov says, "They should be catalysts to move all sorts of stories along, not just their own personal tales. :)"

Korbel says, "Yeah, it is important to remember, FSs don't RP within themselves, they are they to keep the WHOLE story going. Catalyst is a great word."

Jessalyn says, "You'll get to do both, of course. :) As FUs it is your job to try and create RP and get people involved from all over the MUSH, but every character has his or her own story."

Chewbacca nods. "FUs and FCs should without a doubt be out there helping other players move their stories along. We're here to improve the MU* as a whole, not our own stories. Though there's nothing wrong with starting a TP that'll bring about an interesting revelation in your own character."

Korolov says, "Or becoming someone's personal demon... ;)"

Jessalyn baps Chewie. Personal stories AND catalysts for the whole MUSH! :D

Shade has regularly played conventional characters that have, in effect crossed the line into 'virtual' FC's by virtue of sheer time and roleplay... and many of the same guidelines you suggest applied to them, simply as a result of common sense - you can't always be the hero... sometimes it's way more fun to be the beardy old guy who gives the heroes the scrap of parchment in the Inn ^_^

Jessalyn says, "Yes. If you want to play a Force User, it is important to remember that once you take on the role, that communication and compromise are crucial to your success. Being willing to accept defeat, to work OOCly with your enemies, and forward the story of the MUSH at the expense of your own character is essential."

Shade doesn't think he's /ever/ wanted to 'kill' a good enemy... it's massively more satisfying to work out a /great/ scene with them for the entertainment and edification of others..."

Korbel says, "How closely with the admins do these features, or FS's remain. I don't mean are they admin controlled, but elseMU, it often appears that way."

Jessalyn says, "By defeat I don't mean PKing. :) that is pretty rare, and FUs can't be killed without the permission of the Force wizard. Consent rules apply otherwise."

Kyyel says, "That last part of what Jessa said is crucial. Even though you may want to become a Force User, it doesn't make you immortal or invulnerable. Work with people, and be willing to take a not so favorable endind to a scene. Others will respect you more for it."

Wes says, "Well Chewie is admin of needing a bath but I don't think there is a link particularly between FCs and FUs with admin here. If it happens it isn't out of a decision to be that way."

Korolov says, "I agree with Wes on that one."

Jessalyn says, "FUs and FCs are answerable to the Force wizard and may be asked to provide evidence of their development or activity through logs and such. Keeping the Force wizard informed about your IC progress (like training, etc.) never hurts, either."

Jessalyn says, "If I understand the question correctly, then yes, Wes is correct."

Wes nods. "But the FUs and FCs are not generally staff run :)

Jessalyn says, "No, no."

Korolov says, "Especially if you want goodies. The Force Wiz likes to give out goodies but unfortunately she isn't omniscient."

Jessalyn says, "If there are admin who play FUs it is because they earned it. :)"

Korbel is asking not because I think it is this way BTW, only to help inform others.

Wes agrees with Jess. I don't think admin has practiced favoritisim, they either like your app or not, regardless of what your position in the MUSH is.
Wes says, "Good question Korbel :)"

Korolov says, "I know in my case, I was an FU before I was an admin, but doing both requires a lot more work than either individually."

Wes says, "I believe what it comes down to in getting such applications passed is proof that you can get things moving and shaking in the world of RP :)"

Jessalyn says, "I have one more thing to add..."

Zen wakes up and threatens you all about paging me!

Chewbacca says, "!"

Chewbacca hides.

Korolov says, "Zen is good with threats."

Kyyel nods.

Wes says, "Don't page Zen, as I've always said, he hates it!"

Chewbacca says, "Yes...I uh...I say that too...."

Kyyel says, "Page him at your own risk. Just have tribute. He likes cheetoes and oreos."

Aldus says, "on the other hand, I don't mind the occassional page."

Wes says, "Heya Aldus :)"

Chewbacca says, "Aldus!"

Jessalyn says, "As good as any application might be, it's important to remember that your reputation as a player on the game will precede you and may even be more important than an actual app. You might write the greatest app ever, but if you are a jerk to people, you are inactive, or you don't play well with others or foster RP, it just doesn't change very much. :)"

Wes says, "Oh yeah we should bring up Aldus here as well, Aldus is a great resource for TPs and RP."

Zen hates you all! But I will help you if I can. If I'm dark I sometimes am spammed (coding) or away from keys, but generally happy to help. Unfortunately most of the RPA slowness is due to a wizard posting for the RPA folks, and then them considering every little aspect. And then sometimes it's due to someone overlooking it or our RPA listserv barfing, so follow up if you don't hear within a week or two.

Chewbacca nods. "Yeah. It helps to be on good terms with at least the majority of the MU*. If everyone here hates you and doesn't want to RP with you, there's no sense in giving you the spot since nobody will RP with you."

Wes says, "Ok let's get into the next subject, restricted races."
Wes says, "I haven't apped for one myself, and I know of only one or two of those who have apped for the restricted races, but they are out there and though many people wont care to do an app just for their race there are some rewarding benefits from it."
Wes says, "The floor is of course still open for people with experience in the area :)"
Wes says, "I have my own ideas that I'll present along with others."

Naota says, "i think a restricted race is very much like a FU app, you really need to explain why you must be race X to provide/create RP that you couldn't without being a restricted race.."

Shade has played with a few... but never /played/ one... - however, the topic he was looking into himself wasn't restricted so much as variant... - the Near-Human racial type is fairly open, what about similar no-stat-difference variants on other races - is there a policy in place, how much freedom do you have, etc?

Chewbacca apped for a Hutt a long time ago. I think it was as soon as I hit my three month mark. That was a terrible experiance. I had no idea what I was doing and didn't read up enough to do it right. So a MUST DO for apping for a Res Race is to read up on all of the information we have here and even some stuff off of all the Star Wars sites out there. Make sure you know what you want before you do the app. Then put it down and, once again, get someone to look over it and give their opinion."

Tracer says, "Though I haven't apped for one myself, I know several who have..."

Wes says, "They give you their experiences with it Tracer?"

Tracer says, "A lot of it in some races require that you -know- about the race, can play their characteristics and your history so the background part is important. Also, I remember one, can't recall which race, maybe Jawa or Ewok, where they needed to have a plausible story to be away from their homeworld so things like that should be included. The main thing is that you're not applying for a race just to get extra pips without a good story to justify why you want to be that race. Again, like all apps, it's the RP potential that matters."
Naota says, "as of near humans and policy on freedom regarding their 'difference', i think it's more or less common sense, if you want a tail that you can wag, that's no probs, if you want a vestigial tail that you could use in combat to grab stuff and such then you might want to clear it Minkar or something, and if you want a tail that can shoot laser beams then you certainly need a special application.."

Tracer nods to Naota. And if you do want extra pips or to raise above set racial maxes then you need a real good reason for it.

Wes says, "Thanks Tracer!"

Shade grins at Begula... and makes a mental note to harass him later regarding plot details... ^_^

Begula says, "Wes asked me here ... something about restricted races?"

Wes says, "We're discussing apping for Restricted Races."

Rook hmms... "What about established races who have higher-than-Human attributes? Like the Wroonians, who can have a Dexterity or Mechanical above 4D (4D+2 actually), but have restricted Knowledge and Technical attributes? I'm not planning on playing a Wroonian any time soon, but I'm curious." :)

Begula says, "ah ..."

Wes turns the floor over to Begula then! :)

Begula says, "well, unfortunately, I can only really respond in the context of how I apped for the slug."

Wes says, "That will be extremely helpful Beg :)"

Begula says, "I think there are two main things that are really important in relation to apping for a restricted race. I'll bet you all have already talked about the RP / TP aspect of things, so I'll relate the second thing more emphatically."

Begula says, "I belive it is important to show not only a knowledge of the race in question, but a more personal interest in what makes the race tick. When I apped for the slug, I went into some detail about philosophy, ethics, and personalities of Hutts. I even spent some time talking about OOC things related to Hutts. How they are portrayed in the movies, the fiction ... and how this could tie into the goals of the MUSH."

Chewbacca says, "That rocks, Begula. Thats an interesting way to go about the app."

Rook nods. "And the Hutts can be really tricky to research. In two different stories Hutts are portrayed in contradictory ways, with respect to gender and culture. If that happens, it might be a good idea to find out which way is accepted by the MUSH." :)

Wes says, "There are also alot of resources about the races online, theforce.net and starwars.com have huge databases of info about them."

Begula thinks it's all too easy to fall into the trap of writing what seems like a 'cool' app ... and straying away from the goals of the MU. Remember the canon sources. The movies. They give us a lot toward inspiration ... and helping us to stay in theme.
Begula says, "in the case of the Hutt ..."
Begula says, "that meant *not apping* for an omnipotent crimelord. The Hutts in the movies, after all ... lend themselves to a comic relief aspect as well. It was not something I felt should be overlooked, and I think by not overlooking it ... I wrote a better app."

Wes chuckles. So you added some humor into your app as well?

Begula says, "absolutely. Let's face it. Jabba is deplorable ... but also a characature of human vice. :')"

Chewbacca nods. "Its good to take into account every aspect when apping for anything. And to go into as much detail as you can about what you're apping for, why you're apping for it, what you're going to do with it, etc. But don't get off of the subject."

Wes agrees with Chewie, and the idea of adding a little humor relevent in your app for whatever your apping for is not a bad idea. If the admin enjoy the app you'll likely get a better response. Things like making it interesting to read are very important."

Wes says, "I wouldn't want to slog through a dull app and I would like to see someone with a definitive personality take the slot."

Chewbacca says, "But try not to repeat yourself, if you can help it. The app should go from one subject to the next, in an orderly fashion. Don't jump around from one thing to another and don't say the same thing ten different times in each paragraph."
Chewbacca says, "Anyone have anything else on Res Races?"

Wes says, "An extremely helpful resource for info on races and just about anything else you need background for is at http://www1.theforce.net/cuswe/"
Wes says, "I've used the info there for apps and names and the like."

Chewbacca says, "There are lots of good resources out there for races. :)"

Wes nods. "Ok lets move onto FC applications!

Wes says, "We touched on this subject a little earlier but I'd like to get more in depth, I'll turn the floor over to Chewie and Han."

Han_Solo says, "I guess it's a good idea to start with my own experience apping for Han. I'll make it short so you guys don't fall asleep."

Han_Solo says, "Right off I'd like to say I got turned down flat the first time I apped. That was a sad sad day."
Han_Solo says, "I thought that my first app was really good, it was my first one however and looking back it wasn't very good at all."
Han_Solo says, "It's a bummer to be turned down, it happens, but if you're persistent in your applications when the FC opens and your app improves I personally believe you have a better chance at getting the slot. You've shown you're still interested in the character after who knows how long, you've shown that your skills in writing and comprehension of the game have gotten better and you've shown your persistence in a non-annoying way."

Jessalyn says, "Don't forget that your reputation, OOC personality and propensity for creating RP for others count here just as with FUs, too. :>"

Han_Solo says, "Yep, no one wants an FC played by someone who constantly makes trouble for others."

Tracer says, "Or who might take the character in an inappropriate direction."

Chewbacca says, "Well, first of all, I never planned on apping for the Wook. I had considered it but I didn't think I was gonna do it. Anyway, I changed my mind at something that could be considered the last minute. I sat down and wrote up an app. It took me two days to write it and get it exactly how I wanted it and I poured my heart into it. And by the time I was finished, I had something that I was proud of."

Han_Solo says, "Spending alot of time making a good app is a great idea, I did mine in the course of several long hours, but I had my first app and original ideas for Han still on my computer."-added- Never resubmit the same app that was turned down!

Shade /always/ finds himself re-writing anything he's written app or story wise if he reads it again... often extensively... - it takes ages, but it's far more satisfying at the end.

Han_Solo says, "There's usually no rush for your application, the deadline is usually way ahead and taking the time to create an interesting and well thought out app is good for you and the MUSH"

Chewbacca says, "The main thing I did, was research. I looked up as much stuff about Chewie as I could find and I asked alot of people what they thought about him and how they saw him as a character. After all of that, I put it with how I felt about him and based my application on that. Its good to do as much research as you can about the FC you're apping for. You could be playing this character for a long time and you have to know him/her inside and out. You have to know how they tick. So looking up as much info as you can on that particular character is key. And use your own opinions. If you saw your dream character in a certain way, think how you could apply that if you got the char. And ask around for other people's opinions. Someone told me something about Chewie that I thought was great, though I'd never thought about it before. So research is vastly important. *still more in a sec*"

Chewbacca says, "Another thing you should do is figure out what you want to do with the character. What would you do with it if you got it? Would you take Han and get him involved in the Underworld again? Would you send Chewie back to Kashyyyk to spend time with his family? You need to think about these things and decide what you want to do with the character. Think of some goals. Both long-term and short-term and talk in some detail about them. They're just ideas, so if it never happens, its ok. But the admins want to see you taking an interest in the character. If you app for Luke and say, "OMG! He's so cool! I'll use the Force and kill Sith and train Jedi and do cool stuff!" and the app doesn't go much further than that, you're chances of getting Luke are more than likely going to be 0. I think its best when someone apps for a character that they truely love. Don't app if you just want the stats or popularity of being an FC. App for it because you love that character and you feel like you could do something special with it."

Shade is genuinely fascinated... did you find it easier to create the application given the wealth of material on the PC... or harder, for the need to conform...? - and how about trying to /fit/ that mould?

Han_Solo says, "Adding to that alot of your ideas in your application might not turn out the way you planned them or at all, and that's ok as long as you constantly make other things happen with your version of an FC. Having strong story ideas with the slot is a great way to insure you'll enjoy the FC and others will too."
Han_Solo says, "I found it alot easier, there was a ton of info on Han and I had alot to pull from."

Chewbacca says, "Its hard, living up to how everyone sees Chewie. And the info on the net made it easier and harder. Because there was so much, I didn't want to bog the app down with info, yet I wanted to put as much in as I could to show that I really had an interest. Its good to have something to go to for info, but its hard because Chewie did those things. So the consequences from those actions are always with me and if they come up in RP, I have to be ready to react like Chewie should."

Tracer says, "I know for me, with Leia, a good part my app being good was how I related to the char. I agree with Chewie's comments on putting things from the heart in the app and that you need to truly be a fan of the character. Very good points. :D One thing not mentioned was what is canon for FCs on this MUSH. How can someone who hasn't played here since 1993 know where the characters here depart from the movies and take their own paths? Are the first 3 Zahn books still considered canon here?"

Han_Solo says, "Also the history of the character is only a small part of the application as a whole."

Naota says, "i know that when we got the 'new' Chewie he asked me to @mail him a list of any IC stuff i did with the old Wook and that was a great way to keep himself 'current'.."

Jessalyn says, "One thing that is helpful to add -- if you are applying for an FC who is in the movies, like Luke, Han, etc., it is NOT overly helpful to 'recap' what happened in the movies. We have all seen SW. :) I guarantee that the admin are familiar with what happens in the movies. So spending half of your app reminding us doesn't do a whole lot of good. You can easily relate how the events in the movies are relevant to how you want to play the character without spending too much time on it. Also, try to remember what is thematic. On SW1, the movies and the original Zahn trilogy are canon. Don't try to start describing what happened when Luke married Mara Jade. ;) That hasn't happened here. If you want to find out what HAS happened, try talking to previous players of the FC or the FC wizard."

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Wes says, "Thanks for coming, everyone helped this class immensly!"